UPDATE: There are several fact checking efforts out there.
Factcheck.org is a well named one.---
The Gwen Ifill thing: I wouldn't do it. Guess that puts me on the record, huh?
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Politicians not answering the actual questions. Shocking.
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Nice Wink. Dems have been making too much of the "fundamentals of the economy are strong" line.
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I've already lost count of the number of times Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has said "America" or "Americans."
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CNN's response meter is brilliant. I need a pie chart.
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Or a pie. I think I've got "America", 2 "American" at 3 at the 3rd question.
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94 times. 94 times. Barack Obama voted to raise taxes 94 times. About like the Dems and the "fundamentals of the economy are strong" line.
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Sen. Joe Biden: Palin is a liar.
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But John McCain voted for it like a billion times. (Actual number something like 470.)
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Palin: I may not answer the questions the way you or the moderator may want to hear." So why do we bring a moderator? She's talking straight to Americans. But allowed the moderator to cut her off. Americans are angry and hungry for more.
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Biden: Things should be fair.
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She's rockin it.---
I like how she says "details" like she's got something to prove.---
I noticed last time you guys wanted details. So I totally brought some this time.---
Biden: Gwen, I don't know where to start.
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So I'll start in Scranton. Where I'm from.
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Biden scores, says most small business owners make less than $250,000. Not one single solitary increase" in taxes. That better mean business taxes, too, Johnny boy.
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Some people call my dad John Boy. Old school.
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I take on oil companies, sucka. That shit don't play in Alaska.
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What percentage of Americans can find Alaska on a map, you figure?
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Palin: "My own area of expertise... energy."---
Palin: John McCain hasn't made any promises he can't keep.
Hell, I've done that. And I'm not running for anything.---
Biden: We'll fight oil companies even more.
Because we're America, sucka. Not a big-ass state next to Canada.---
Quick question: Which presidential candidate do you think has been, and will continue to, pay the most attention to the U.S. economy and other issues?
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Palin back on energy.
Just an aside: We always talk about weaning ourselves about off of foreign oil. What about using their oil and then we're the only ones who've got it?---
Oh, right. Stupid climate change and man's possible, even likely, contribution to it.
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Text from my buddy Nick*: She can't answer anything that she doesn't have notes for.
Me: Luckily she's not trying.
*Nick's a buddy of mine, and one of those six reasonable liberals in the world.---
Biden: Climate change "clearly man made."
Also, we can't stop volcanoes.---
Biden: Let's export wind.
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Mayrilyn*: I'm not liking this, baby.
Me: Can I quote you on that?
Let the record show she failed to answer.
* Liberal girlfriend. Yes, I have one.---
Biden: No difference between hetero or same sex couples in the U.S. Constitution.---
Palin: I won't be "anything but tolerant" of Americans choosing their relationships. Then gives a friendly shout-out to folks who don't like that and says marriage is one man and one woman.
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Biden: But we don't support gay marriage.
Looking for marriage in the Constitution now...---
Biden: No civil rights distinction based on sexual orientation. You agree with that, right Sarah?
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Palin: Somehow says she agrees with Biden, but not in a way that she can be pinned down on whether she agrees with the specific thing he asked her if she agreed with him on.
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Palin: Beat al quaeda.---
Biden: With all due respect I didn't hear a plan.---
Palin: "You're plan is a white flag of surrender in Iraq."
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You know what Biden should say? He should say,
"I might have said Barack wasn't ready to be president, but I damn sure know you ain't ready to be president."---
Then I'd be all like, "Oh no he didn't." I still can't get over that Iraq line. They're moving on to Iran and Pakistan. Palin should definitely shine here.
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Biden: Al quaeda lives in the hills of Afghanistan, baby. 7,000 Madrassas built along the afghan pakistan border. We should be building schools there.
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I think Palin said she just believes what an al quaeda leader said, and that it's one of the reasons we need to be fighting in Iraq. Hitler called. He said the war's in Italy.---
To be fair, she also agreed with David Patreaus: That the central war on terror is in Iraq.
Mine's funnier.---
I want to watch the South Florida - Pittsburgh game.. Does John McCain really not want to talk to Spain? Can that really be true?
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Joe Biden: Joe Biden has been Israel's best friend in the Senate.
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Joe Biden just said an election was a bad idea. Yeah, it was in the West Bank, but I didn't realize we ever held an anti-Democracy position.
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Oh, wait. Our Middle Eastern policy for like the last 50 years.*
* Might be a made up number.---
Palin: Barack Obama says we're just blowing up villages in Afghanistan. We're actually building schools.
Can't we do both?---
Talking about American boots on the ground in Darfur:
Biden: "I think the American public has a stomach for success."
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Things everyone should be against: 1. Genocide
Biden: "We should rally the world to act and we should ... by our own movement."
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Palin: I am a Washington outsider and not used to your crazy ways. Your 'for it before I was against' it philosophy. Americans just want straight talk.
Uh, Gov. Palin...---
Palin also for a no-fly zone in Darfur. Notes Alaska has legislation to divest from Sudan. Hasn't passed yet.
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Stop the presses: Gov. Palin just said the pundits would do their fact checking tonight and show differences between Biden's record, and his statements a month before the election. So Palin
just did a 180 on her position on the press, while saying the press would keep her opponent from getting away with 180s.
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Irony of the night. No one will care, but, you know, I'm a reporter.
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Biden: Ask yourself if you're better off than 8 years ago. Then ask yourself if John McCain disagrees with George Bush on any major issue. Including taxes.---
Palin: "Say it ain't so, Joe. ... There you go. Pointing backwards again."
Yes. Considering the past is stupid.---
Palin tells Biden
his wife's reward is in Heaven. Because she's a teacher.
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Am I the only one who thinks that sounds like an insult? Bless her little heart - she's a teacher. And with Biden's first wife dying in that car crash...
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Biden: Dick Cheney has been "the most dangerous vice president we've had" either in the country's history, or "maybe" in the country's history. I missed the exact line.
Though he's not the only one who's ever shot a colleague. ---
I was going to make a kitchen table joke. (Both candidates have them, reportedly). And a joke about Biden saying he hadn't changed in 35 years. (What's that Obama mantra?) And then Biden choked up a little talking about his kids.
Biden: "I understand. I understand."
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Biden: "Let's talk about the maverick John McCain. He has been a maverick" on some things. "He has not been a maverick in providing health care to people... He's not been a maverick when it comes to education. .... He's not been a maverick on virtually anything that genuinely affects (people)... when they talk around their kitchen table."
A kitchen table like the one at my house.---
Unless Palin shoots a puppy during this last question, she's done well.
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But it'd be more than fair to say Biden won.---
Palin: I'd like to be able to have more opportunities to debate like this, without the filter of the mainstream media. John McCain and I will fight for America. Reagan: "Freedom is always just one generation away from extinction." Or else we'll be telling our grandchildren what freedom was like.
You know, she has been making me think of that movie Red Dawn.---
Did you know no foreign army has ever occupied American soil?
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Unless you count the British.
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Marilyn: "Not a game changer. She rocked it, obviously. But not a game changer."
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Campbell Brown notes Palin called Gen. David McKiernan "Gen. McClellan." You know, I thought that guy was
at Antietam.---
Campbell agrees with Marilyn: "I didn't think it was a major game changer."